Wednesday, May 13, 2020

Tumblr Thread: A Deep Navel Gaze At, The Incredibles


Man, Tumblr does it again with just the kind of thread that leaves us speechless. As far as Tumblr taking us down rabbit holes goes, this one takes the cake. We get to see a deeply enjoyable analysis on a movie, "The Incredibles", that so many of us love. There's just no school like the old school. 

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Text - silverhawk honestly tho that scene in the incredibles where mr. incredible sees the names of all the old super heroes that used to be his friends / that he knew from Back in the Day and how every one of them has been killed by syndrome is such a chilling scene for so many reasons like for one, everyone he knew is dead at this point and has been killed on the same island he's at now and two, its heartbreaking bc that means that almost every hero wanted to try out being a hero again despite

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Text - theladyspanishes I think the core of that scene for me is, when you're insane like me and you go through it frame by frame, you can work out that Gazerbeam defeated the omnidroid twice - the only super we have enough information to confirm did so. I always wondered about his body in the cave, how and why he got the password... But it makes sense. This thing goes haywire, gets an upgrade, and goes haywire again? He must have been hella suspicious! So he does what any good superhero would d

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Text - swan2swan Also Gazerbeam probably has X-ray vision-so he not only survived long enough to defeat the Omnidroid, he had the ability to see Syndrome entering the password. animagix101 Holy guacamole! I should pay more attention, I don't think I got any of that stuff! nigga-kun does anyone think about the fact that now mr. incredibles has to live w/ the fact that all his friends getting killed by syndrome could have been avoided if he had just been nicer to syndrome from the beginning

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Text - breefolk-hates-staff ^| was thinking that from the beginning reading this and was shocked it went through so many comments before anyone pointed that out. Syndrome waited until his machine was almost ready to go before asking Bob to come to Nomanisan. He also was surprised to find out that he was married to "Elastigirl", which means he likely built his list and went through everyone else before finally deciding it was time to kill Bob.

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Text - gay-jesus-probably Also, Syndrome literally didn't find Bob until the start of the movie. He found Frozone and was stalking him. If Lucius hadn't hung out with Bob, then Frozone was going to be the next one lured. There's literally a scene of Mirage realizing that the guy in the car with her target is Mr. Incredible. He wasn't going through the list, he was stalking and finding every former Super he could, luring them to the island, and then killing them, for the sake of improving his rob

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Text - and like, let's be real here in the intro Buddy was crossing the line the second he showed up, Mr. Incredible mentioned he'd been very nice to Buddy, via signing a ridiculous amount of autographs and doing pictures and stuff, and that he was not going to risk a childs life as a sidekick (albeit in less words). Buddy literally showed up by breaking into his car, and then stalked him all evening until he was arrested. That's disturbingly obsessive behavior, there's no amount of niceness tha

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Text - kiokushitaka reblogging for the last comment because blaming mr incredible for the deaths of his comrades is honestly such a weird take and i dislike how it's framed as "fact" when it's not. it's syndrome's fault and syndrome's fault alone. full stop. he murdered them because he was selfish, entitled, and obsessed with mr incredible to a fanatical degree.

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Text - andy-the-anon You know what's really great In the beginning when Mr. Incredible says, "Go home, Buddy. I work alone." He's holding up Bomb Voyage In Syndrome's flashback, he's looking down on him, no bad guy in sight Do with that info what you will

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Text - bookish-actor This is such good analysis, but it's also worth mentioning the difference between these two scenes which, supposedly depict the same thing. In the first, Bob is clearly busy, trying to keep his eyes on Bomb Voyage (a fantastic supervillain name!!!), so he is distractedly telling Buddy that he is busy and that he doesn't need help. The lighting is realistic, and although he is CLEARLY fed up with dealing with this obsessive and toxic fan, he keeps an even tone and doesn't sna

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Text - In the flashback, it's a different scenario completely!! The lighting is all focused on Bob as if he's under a spotlight and it is only the two of them. Bob's pose here is also ridiculously condescending. He has his hands on his hips like a superhero and is looking down at Buddy with contempt and scorn. In addition, when he turns to leave, he dismissively waves his hand as if saying "Get out of here." It's also interesting to note Buddy's position here. His arms are extended either in wor

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Text - It's also amazing to me how much Buddy's suit is a reflection of himself. Everything from the black and white color scheme representing his black and white way of thinking, to the huge S because here only thinks of himself. Bob's suit, however, is blue. In addition to being associated with a calming and rational thought process, I think it's also to represent that he's on the side of the police. He's not here for his own glory, he's essentially working as an extension of the police force

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Text - littlewitchlingrowan Also, let's not forget when Bob is catching Bomb Voyage and trying to keep Buddy from yeeting himself towards almost certain death, he's on his way to his own wedding. That makes two things abundantly clear: Bob doesn't have an aversion to working with other people. Remember when he runs into Elastigirl earlier in the day? She reminds him not to "forget", and he promises he won't. They were standing over a thief they ended up accidentally nabbing together, or so we th

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Text - than fine with a partner because he married his. The other is that, Bob is trying to protect Helen. She may be more than capable of handling herself, as she flirtatiously reminds Bob on the rooftop just hours before their nuptials. But the one thing that's priceless to the Supers are their secret identities. With Syndrome following Bob begging to partner with him, it puts Helen in danger. A fanatical fan like that can end up possessive, meaning once Syndrome discovers her, could see her a

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Text - Which leads me to my next point. Blaming Bob for all his friends getting killed is buying directly into Syndrome's revisionist history of Bob "rejecting" him. Remember, if Syndrome hadn't shown up to Mr. Incredible busting Bomb Voyage, none of the ensuing chaos with the bomb on the rocket boots getting dropped on the train tracks and blowing them up, causing Bob to lose Bomb Voyage, then forced to stop a speeding train, resulting in the passengers getting injured, the attempted suicide be

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Text - Hero syndrome This article relies largely or entirely on a single source. Learn more The hero syndrome is a phenomenon affecting people who seek heroism or recognition, usually by creating a situation which they can resolve. This can include unlawful acts, such as arson. The phenomenon has been noted to affect civil servants, such as firefighters, nurses, police officers, security guards and politicians.

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Text - People with hero syndrome generally cause an accident or disaster with the intention of then coming in to render aid, and become the 'hero'. The reasons for this often vary. The perpetrator may be trying to validate their own self-worth, or be seen as brave by others. In this way, hero syndrome is comparable to Munchausen syndrome. For example, an arsonist may start a house on fire so they can rescue the people inside, in an attempt to garner the respect and gratitude of the victims and a

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Text - korben600 A couple of things: - The reason Syndrome found all the other supers first (including Frozone) was because Bob kept getting fired from his jobs, forcing the government to wipe his existence from multiple companies and forcing his family to move each time that happened. He unintentionally saved his family by forcing them to relocate so often. - Two of the biggest differences between the two versions of "go home, Buddy" is the focus, and length. In Mr Incredible's version, "Go Hom

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Text - much more important because those were more important to Mr Incredible (since the first two ended the superhero movement, and the last was his wedding). Buddy, on the other hand, only flashes back to "Go home, Buddy". Which is weird because Buddy almost died later that night from a bomb on his cape, and he almost killed dozens of people on a train by dropping a bomb on them, and because of that, he was indirectly responsible for the death of supers. All three of those things should be muc

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Text - - Also, on a more sobering note, some have brought up how Incredibles 2 seems a step down from Incredibles 1, and while that's arguable, there's some related bits in there l'd like to mention. You know how there were a slew of superhero's in the movie for when they made superhero-ing legal again?

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Text - Notice anything funny about that lineup? Anything at all? Okay, here's a hint then. How many of these heroes were working before heroes got banned? How many of these new heroes are from Mr Incredible's era? Answer: None. Frozone, Elastigirl, and Mr Incredible are the only ones who were active before the ban, or more specifically, were left from those active before the ban. Think about it, Elastigirl was on the news basically continuously, there was a UN declaration on supers, any super le

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Cartoon - And it's not like she and Bob were loners who never interacted with anyone, look at their wedding day, it's packed to the gills with capes (and possibly some secret identities too): So...what happened? Syndrome happened. This isn't just some serial killer picking people at random, Syndrome systematically wiped

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Text - out an entire community of people, arguably, an entire generation of supers, since Violet, Dash, and Jack-Jack seem to be the only kid-supers in existence. That's why Elastigirl is so emotional when she's introduced to these new supers, she thought her people, barring her family and Frozone, were wiped out by Syndrome. And in a way...they were. Nobody's left from her era of superheroics. None of her old friends survived. It's just her, Bob, and Frozone left out of what was once a thriving

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Text - one by one until the population is decimated. The members of the community have to intervene themselves to slow/stop this "syndrome" because the government, which was supposed to protect them, is unaware of, or is blatantly ignoring the crisis until it starts hurting the "normal" community. Because of this "syndrome" th just this gap in this community, where an entire generation is just...missing...with the few survivors having to counsel the new, untouched generation, and helping them ac

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Photograph - And take a look at that wedding shot again.

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Photo caption - Anyone look familiar? If it's to hard to tell, at least four of the people Syndrome killed were at Bob's wedding. Mr Incredible wasn't watching supers getting killed, he was watching his friends getting killed. People he trusted enough to share his secret identity with people he trusted enough to share his wife's secret identity with. Hell, our poor boy Gazerbeam got a front row seat with Edna and their NSA agent that's usually reserved for family only.

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Text - And that's bad enough, but something else occurred to me, Bob and Helen clearly haven't been keeping in close contact with their superheroic friends, Bob asks Frozone if he's been keeping in contact with Gazerbeam, implying they haven't talked in a while. Additionally, Bob's life, and the superhero community's life, went tits up basically immediately after his wedding night. So if there was any point for them to stop talking with other supers, it'd be then. So what does that mean? It mean

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